Comments on: Herndon Alliance's misleading messaging leads to failure of health care reform http://www.socialmedicine.org/2009/08/24/health-activism/herndon-alliances-misleading-messaging-leads-to-failure-of-health-care-reform/ An Alternative to Corporate Health (founded in 2004) Sat, 07 Jan 2012 22:12:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Laura http://www.socialmedicine.org/2009/08/24/health-activism/herndon-alliances-misleading-messaging-leads-to-failure-of-health-care-reform/#comment-332 Laura Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:29:24 +0000 http://www.socialmedicine.org/?p=3414#comment-332 Alex, The current bills aren't real change, and Democrats aren't the left. Scott Brown's election is just another excuse for them to pass something acceptable to their big donors and future employers, rather than what people really want and what would really work to solve the health and health care problems we have. Alex,
The current bills aren’t real change, and Democrats aren’t the left. Scott Brown’s election is just another excuse for them to pass something acceptable to their big donors and future employers, rather than what people really want and what would really work to solve the health and health care problems we have.

]]> By: alex http://www.socialmedicine.org/2009/08/24/health-activism/herndon-alliances-misleading-messaging-leads-to-failure-of-health-care-reform/#comment-331 alex Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:27:27 +0000 http://www.socialmedicine.org/?p=3414#comment-331 i came across this older post while searching for the Herndon Alliance, actually, so Laura, you should be proud that your counterpoint rates so highly. but i also see it now, from the prism s/p Scott Brown's election, where the prospects for _any_ reform are precarious, as emblematic of how the left's lack of discipline and eagerness to find fault is short-circuiting our ability to make real change that makes a lasting difference in people's lives. we see it still now, where passionate House members have signed a letter vowing to oppose any bill that doesn't contain a public option; this might be ok if we had a unicameral legislature, but to me, again, just signals how the left has this talent for forming a circle and pointing our guns at one other, in a kind of protracted standoff scene from a Quentin Tarantino film. only the victims are real. i came across this older post while searching for the Herndon Alliance, actually, so Laura, you should be proud that your counterpoint rates so highly. but i also see it now, from the prism s/p Scott Brown’s election, where the prospects for _any_ reform are precarious, as emblematic of how the left’s lack of discipline and eagerness to find fault is short-circuiting our ability to make real change that makes a lasting difference in people’s lives.

we see it still now, where passionate House members have signed a letter vowing to oppose any bill that doesn’t contain a public option; this might be ok if we had a unicameral legislature, but to me, again, just signals how the left has this talent for forming a circle and pointing our guns at one other, in a kind of protracted standoff scene from a Quentin Tarantino film.

only the victims are real.

]]> By: People’s Health Movement and US Health care Reform: Letter in Lancet at The Social Medicine Portal http://www.socialmedicine.org/2009/08/24/health-activism/herndon-alliances-misleading-messaging-leads-to-failure-of-health-care-reform/#comment-330 People’s Health Movement and US Health care Reform: Letter in Lancet at The Social Medicine Portal Wed, 09 Dec 2009 06:56:56 +0000 http://www.socialmedicine.org/?p=3414#comment-330 [...] One of the many curious things about the current health care reform debate in Washington is the extent to which the US is considered to be  outside of the community of nations.  We are judged by our own standards and can learn only from our own experiences.  This phrase is neatly captured in the desire for a “uniquely American solution” to health care. (See our prior posting about “misleading messaging” and the failure of health care reform). [...] [...] One of the many curious things about the current health care reform debate in Washington is the extent to which the US is considered to be  outside of the community of nations.  We are judged by our own standards and can learn only from our own experiences.  This phrase is neatly captured in the desire for a “uniquely American solution” to health care. (See our prior posting about “misleading messaging” and the failure of health care reform). [...]

]]> By: sandy ceren http://www.socialmedicine.org/2009/08/24/health-activism/herndon-alliances-misleading-messaging-leads-to-failure-of-health-care-reform/#comment-329 sandy ceren Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:30:52 +0000 http://www.socialmedicine.org/?p=3414#comment-329 Thank you for writing an excellent article that should be helpful in appropriately framing solutions to our problems with current health care system. Obama repeatedly gives fine speeches demonstrating his concern about the problems, but his solutions fail to immediately make health care better for the public. It needs to be shown that his proposals are a giveaway to the insurance and pharma industries. They will get more subscribers and it will be business as usual because the law the president proposes will be difficult to enact and enforce. Proof can be provided. Thank you for writing an excellent article that should be helpful in appropriately framing solutions to our problems with current health care system.
Obama repeatedly gives fine speeches demonstrating his concern about the problems, but his solutions fail to immediately make health care better for the public. It needs to be shown that his proposals are a giveaway to the insurance and pharma industries. They will get more subscribers and it will be business as usual because the law the president proposes will be difficult to enact and enforce. Proof can be provided.

]]> By: Alan http://www.socialmedicine.org/2009/08/24/health-activism/herndon-alliances-misleading-messaging-leads-to-failure-of-health-care-reform/#comment-328 Alan Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:42:32 +0000 http://www.socialmedicine.org/?p=3414#comment-328 Single-payer is not being pitched here as the only solution but as a representation of a philosophy at odds with what is being advanced with the Herndon Alliance methods. Part of that philosophy rejects those methods as incompatible to real change. That is the main point in this piece, as far as I can tell. Single-payer is not being pitched here as the only solution but as a representation of a philosophy at odds with what is being advanced with the Herndon Alliance methods. Part of that philosophy rejects those methods as incompatible to real change. That is the main point in this piece, as far as I can tell.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.socialmedicine.org/2009/08/24/health-activism/herndon-alliances-misleading-messaging-leads-to-failure-of-health-care-reform/#comment-327 Aaron Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:15:23 +0000 http://www.socialmedicine.org/?p=3414#comment-327 Even if HR3200 is not ideal, I can think of several of my patients who would benefit from exchanges and a public option; the industry regulations are not meaningless; expanding Medicaid would help millions; the development of a center for comparative effectiveness research will improve quality and control costs; and there will be some improvements to the primary care infrastructure. Whether its single payer or a public health insurance option, I'm going to stay positive and support the efforts for universal coverage. There were 3000 people in Times Square yesterday (according to the police), and I think we need to stop fighting about who is right and just get out there. http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/video?id=6989594 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/29/774133/-3000-NYers-RALLY-for-Health-Care-in-Times-Squarephoto-diary I spoke to lots of people about both single payer and the current bills being considered. I spoke at a community meeting last week and people had questions about both. I just don't think telling people that single payer is the only option will work (I'm not an expert on comparative health systems, but I don't think it's true either - France, Germany, Japan, and other countries have well functioning health care systems; And if we're talking about efficiency and health equity, it seems like Cuba would be a much better example than Canada). When there are single payer marches or a movement led by the uninsured, I'll be there as well, but for now I don't think we can afford to let this effort fail. Even if HR3200 is not ideal, I can think of several of my patients who would benefit from exchanges and a public option; the industry regulations are not meaningless; expanding Medicaid would help millions; the development of a center for comparative effectiveness research will improve quality and control costs; and there will be some improvements to the primary care infrastructure.

Whether its single payer or a public health insurance option, I’m going to stay positive and support the efforts for universal coverage.

There were 3000 people in Times Square yesterday (according to the police), and I think we need to stop fighting about who is right and just get out there.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/video?id=6989594

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/29/774133/-3000-NYers-RALLY-for-Health-Care-in-Times-Squarephoto-diary

I spoke to lots of people about both single payer and the current bills being considered. I spoke at a community meeting last week and people had questions about both. I just don’t think telling people that single payer is the only option will work (I’m not an expert on comparative health systems, but I don’t think it’s true either – France, Germany, Japan, and other countries have well functioning health care systems; And if we’re talking about efficiency and health equity, it seems like Cuba would be a much better example than Canada).

When there are single payer marches or a movement led by the uninsured, I’ll be there as well, but for now I don’t think we can afford to let this effort fail.

]]> By: Claudia http://www.socialmedicine.org/2009/08/24/health-activism/herndon-alliances-misleading-messaging-leads-to-failure-of-health-care-reform/#comment-326 Claudia Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:42:48 +0000 http://www.socialmedicine.org/?p=3414#comment-326 Thanks for posting this reflection, Laura.... :-) Thanks for posting this reflection, Laura…. :-)

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